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3.19 – Beyond Creation Science (Pt. 8)

In this video and outline, we take a look at chapters 11 – 12 of Beyond Creation Science.

Here is a link to the video, (and below is the outline with some provided excerpts), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSdYdXo03mg

 


Chapter 11 – God’s Curse on Adam: The Problem

Key words:
Dispensationalism – It considers biblical history as divided by God into dispensations, defined periods or ages to which God has allotted distinctive administrative principles.

Evolutionism –  is defined as the process of growth and development or the theory that organisms have grown and developed from past organisms. … An example of evolution is the theory started by Charles Darwin that theorizes about how humans came to be in their present form.

Creationism – the belief that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation, as in the biblical account, rather than by natural processes such as evolution.

YEC – Young- Earth Creationism

OEC – Old – Earth Creationism

Gnosticism –  says that humans are divine souls trapped in the ordinary physical (or material) world. They say that the world was made by an imperfect spirit.

 

The Flood & Death Before the Fall

“Young – earth creationism claims that there was no biological death in God’s original good creation. In other words, all biological death among breath-based life is the result of sin, and sin entered the world through Adam’s disobedience…biological view of the curse requires that Adam’s fall resulted in a change to the physical laws governing planet Earth”.

“Old earth creationists “suggest the physical world we witness today in the same world God originally created – God’s “very good” creation”.

 

The Dispensational View of Earth’s History
“Literalism explains why young-earth creationists see change between the pre- and post- fall worlds”. 

Reading Isaiah without understanding metaphors and New Testament terms without understanding their prophetic use (“elements”)

The Evolutionism in Young – Earth Creationism

“…consider polar bears and penguins…where do these specifically adapted animals come from?”

“Young- earth creationists cannot dismiss evolution by means of natural selection because that would torpedo their own theory”.

 

Young- Earth Creationism vs. Intelligent Design

“They believe the curse explains what the world is today, not God”.

 

Old – Earth Creationism: Partial – Preterism

“Old – earth creationism implies that the fall did not affect the physical economy of physical life on earth…The curse is anthropocentric, or man – cantered”.

“In the old- earth view, there is essential difference between the physical world of Genesis 1-2 and “our world”. Yet, there is a radical change from “our world” to the “world of Revelation 21-22”.

They “…have abandoned the anthropocentric view of the curse they maintain in Genesis! If the curse did not affect the natural economy of God’s “good creation” then why would God need to remove our physical universe in order to remove the curse through redemption?”.

 

All Roads Lead to Gnosticism

“The sad reality is that both common views of creationism are ultimately indistinguishable from Gnosticism. Both views deny the goodness of God’s physical creation and teach that God must replace it with a new universe in the future. Both views affirm that ultimate salvation is essentially, escape from our present physical world”.

 

Young- Earth Creationist Gnosticism

“The curse now permeates the very elements of the earth”. – Henry Morris

“Young – earth creationist doctrine also has terrible implications for a Christian worldview. If this physical world is cursed and inherently corrupted, then there can be little incentive to maintain our environment for the long-term”.

 

Old – Earth Creationist Gnosticsm
“The original creation had this kind of “temporariness” or “emptiness” according to David Snoke. Man is “unborn” from the beginning”.

 

 

Chapter 12 – God’s Curse on Adam: The Solution

The Biblical View of Heaven
“…the Bible clearly teaches that heaven is not a bookend to history in any way. Heaven existed before the creation is the physical world, and unlike our world, is eternal”.

“Heaven runs concurrently with history, interacting with our world in various ways and at various times. Heaven is not a far off place separated from “here”. Relationally, it is, in fact, close to “here”.

 

The Biblical View of Earth’s History
“Genesis and Revelation are true bookends to redemptive history. Both Genesis and Revelation relate the same story: Adam’s fall and Christ’s redemption”.

“If our physical world existed for a long time before the fall of Adam and was not radically affected by his sin, then it stands to reason that Christ’s redemption would not entail a radically changed planet. Thus, the history of planet Earth extends out each direction beyond the Biblical story of the fall and redemption”.

 

Finished Salvation & the Coming of Christ
“Jesus finished His redemptive world in the first century. This means the curse is gone for all those who live “in Christ”…To deny this, one has to suggest that the work of Christ remains incomplete today”.

 

The Good Life in Christ

“Life is good for the believer because Jesus says, “I have come that they might have life, and they they may have it more abundantly (John 10:10)”. Notice that Jesus is not talking about physical life, because everyone lived physically before He came. He is talking about the same life that Adam lost in the garden – covenant life in friendship and communion with God”.

“What about the presence of biological death in our world?…the physical operation of our world does not indicate the need for some ultimate physical conclusion where biological death no longer exists if the physical world did not change as a result of the curse on Adam”.

 

What Do You Mean By Good?

(See quotes in portion of chapter)

 

Our God- Bathed World

“…consider that the tree of the knowledge of good and evil also existed before the fall. This implies that not only death, but evil existed before the fall”.

 

The Divine Purpose of Creation
“How can creation be a symbol of God, today, if the curse caused a manifest change in the physical universe? Would not a great change alter the creational symbols and make them false? If the creation changed as a result of the fall, then we are no longer viewing God’s creation!”.

 

A Biblical Defense of Death Before the Fall
“…imagery of the garden of Eden throughout the entire Bible is applied whenever God’s people live in friendship and covenant with God”.

 

“When You Eat Of It You Will Surely Die”
“If biological death is at issue during the temptation and fall of man, then God’s word to Adam proved to be false and the serpent’s lie proved to be true. Adam and Eve did not die, biologically, when they disobeyed God”.

“Adam broke the covenant relationship and was separated from God. That shows us the nature of “the death” they experienced when they ate was spiritual, not biological”.

 

Jesus & the Adamic Curse

“If Jesus had not died on the cross, would He have died a natural death at some point in His future? Remember, Jesus took on human flesh and a body like ours (1 John 4:2). He was “born of a woman (Gal. 4:4). We suggest that Jesus would have experienced biological death at some point in His life because He has human, even though He never sinned”.

“If biological death is the nature of God’s curse on Adam, then every man pays the penalty for his own sin when he dies…Do all men pay the penalty for for their own sin when they die? Furthermore, what about Christians when they die? Did Jesus pay the entire penalty for the sin of His people? If the answer is “yes”, then biological death cannot be any part of the original penalty for sin, for Christians still experience biological death!”.

“Jesus died a true biological death to fulfil the Law of Moses, but Jesus paid the true penalty for Adam’s sin when He was cut off from fellowship and communion with God the Father”.

 

Humanist Young – Earth Creationism

“The idea that man’s sin could cause the enormous creation God made is implicitly humanistic. It posits that man’s physical place is this world is far greater than the Bible warrants”.

 

The Wild Creation & Our Wild God

“It then occurred to me that after God made all all of this, He pronounced it good, for heaven’s sake…The whole creation is unapologetically wild. God loves it that way”. – John Eldridge

 

Adam, the Serpent, & Inevitable Death

“Adam’s failure in the garden began as a failure to protect the woman from the serpent who invaded his domain. Adam’s failure resulted from cowardice”.

“…the fall of man has nothing to do with the biological death we witness in our world. Biologically death is built into created order from the beginning. Death is a part of life and serves a divine purpose…When Adam and Eve sinned they lost covenant life: union and communion with God”.

 

Redemption & Our World

“Many overlook the fact that the new heaven and earth has nothing to do with a re-creation of our physical universe, but everything to do with the removal of sin’s curse”.

“Christ’s first appearing was for the purpose of offering Himself as a sacrifice for sin. Forty years later, Jesus brought salvation to all the faithful covenant people of God at His second priestly appearing when He came in the full cloud – glory of His Father (Heb. 9:25-28). It was the completed work of Jesus Christ, the true high priest, which removed “the death” Adam suffered at the fall for all those in Christ. The “new heaven and new earth” is where “righteousness dwells”. It exists wherever God’s people live. They have had their sins removed once and for all”.

 

The Death of Death in Historic Church Teaching

– Consider the various positions found all through church history.

 

Futurism Bites the Genesis Debate

“Many miss the truth of what the Bible teaches because they view the curse in physical terms as young-earth creationism teaches…But what if the curse has nothing to do with biological death?”

“If dispensationalism is wrong about the end, then it is also wrong in its view of there nature off the fall and the curse on Adam at the beginning”.

 

The Whole Creation Groans…Until Now 

cf. Genesis 3:17-19; Romans 8:20-22

“The Adamic curse and the Adamic death ended in the first century…How we understand the curse will have direct implications for how we understand the redemption in Christ”.

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